Ebay???

[char40too]

What's with all the "spare tickets" going?

This isn't ebay - stop using this forum for flogging/selling tickets "please"!!

In my opinion the photos are there for a reason (I know people get in on other tickets, and it's upto them to risk it), but I don't agree

[smileyface]

ah relax, its not as if they are being touted for vast sums. Who knows maybe you'd feel differently if you didn't have a ticket OR even worst for unseen circumstances couldn't go! £200 is a big chunk of the monthly budget for a lot of folk out there, so a little compassion wouldn't go amiss

[YCFC]

Personally, I don't have any issue at all with it, and I'm a seasoned Glastonbury goer who loves the festival for everything that it is and tries to remain, despite the world now being a very different place to that of even 15 years ago (let alone 40).

The photo and registration system was put in place to make it as hard as possible for tickets to be touted - surely this just illustrates that, bar exceptions we have no way of quantifying, this has been successful.

If someone wants to openly offer their ticket for sale, for no profit, and both the seller and the person buying accept the potential risks involved, then go for it and the best of luck guys.

At least someone isn't out of pocket, and someone else get's the chance to attend which they othewise did not have.

Too much Glasto snobbery imo. It would be criminal to see a ticket go unused, and totally irrational to expect someone to give a ticket away.

At least by coming to a forum like this you'd expect the beneficiary to be someone who really wants to go, which can only be a good thing.

[glasty]

[QUOTE=smileyface;12440]ah relax, its not as if they are being touted for vast sums.

EXACTLY! whats the problem?

[carllucey]

how and why does it bother you.

[whatme]

What's with all the "spare tickets" going?

This isn't ebay - stop using this forum for flogging/selling tickets "please"!!

In my opinion the photos are there for a reason (I know people get in on other tickets, and it's upto them to risk it), but I don't agree

well said

[mumbles04]

JOBSWORTH

[stardustjunkie]

They're not being sold for more than the face value, therefore I see no problem.

As said above, the buyer knows the risks involved, so let them take those risks.

You'd want a chance if you hadn't got a ticket.

I'd rather someone who genuinely wanted to go, could go, than a ticket go to waste.

It's really not that big a deal.

[glastomad]

What's with all the "spare tickets" going?

This isn't ebay - stop using this forum for flogging/selling tickets "please"!!

In my opinion the photos are there for a reason (I know people get in on other tickets, and it's upto them to risk it), but I don't agree

Couldn't agree more

[exstockwellgooner]

JOBSWORTH

Can't see anyone being a jobsworth-just an expression of an opinion on both sides which is exactly what this forum is about.

[stinkywitch]

I think its wrong and it will effect the credibility of our forum and before anyone says ......"what if you was in that position?" Well then I wouldn't be going would I?

Not sure about removing the posts yet but I think after another glass or 2 I might just!

[YCFC]

I feel that is very over the top and promoting ones own opinion as more valid and relevant than others. Forums are about freedom of speech, freedom of choice and as such should be self-regulating except for extreme circumstances. This is clearly not one.

Nobody has been insulted, no bad language has been used, no laws have been broken or suggested.

A few years ago promoting the 'Glasto ethos' would have been to encourage people to jump the fence to gain entry. Are we seriously going to start up with the forum police over this?! It's a bit rich to start taking the moral high ground that stops a genuine punter gaining entry!

Sad day if we do, simply as it doesn't sit comfortably with another persons opinion who happens to have mod rights. What harm is it doing?!

I say this from a position of someone who would never ever flog their ticket and has no vested interest in accepting others that want to for their own non-profitable reasons.

[stinkywitch]

I don't think its over the top to be honest, sellers get their listings removed from ebay and other outlets I don't see why we should be different even if no profit is being made.
If I did think my opinion was more valid than anybody elses I would have deleted the posts already but as you rightly say nobody is being insulted and no bad language is being used so for the time being we are all just sharing our opinions. And as in all walks of life people have diff opinions.
I have noticed that all the people who are selling tickets are new members and I do feel as though the forum is being used. But as I said thats just my opinion.

[stinkywitch]

Anyway the decision has been taken out of the forums hands GFL don't approve.

[YCFC]

But surely if someone wants to register for a specific reason, and perhaps never post again, that's absolutely their right to do so? They're not 'using' the forum, a forum by it's very nature is there to provide an outlet for people with a similar interest. Obviously some are more 'protective' (if that's the right word) of the place than others, but we have to accept that to some a forum is simply a means to an end. That's life.

Nothing personal Mrs Witch. I used to be webmaster of a forum with over 3000 active members so I do know where you're coming from - I just don't agree and think it's ridiculously petty of GFL to be honest. If they care that much they should sort out the desperately flawed application process with See (e.g. getting through on the phone only to be told the tickets are sold out, when there is actually some left with coach packages - this happened to my mate who as a result cannot attend).

I live for Glasto and under normal circumstances have nothing but praise for it by the way.

Have a wonderful festival.

ps. We cannot compare this to ebay, which is a profit making commercial website. The arguement there is very, very different.

[stinkywitch]

I don't take it personal. And I do agree I prob love this forum far too much. But we do have a great relationship with GFL and we can't risk upsetting that balance. I really do feel for anyone who hasn't got a ticket and those who have one they are unable to use but unfortunatly we cant help.

[YCFC]

I appreciate you do ;-)

My last point on this matter: does it not seem absolutely, utterly stupid (by GFL) to try and regulate a handful of people when there are 150,000 tickets out there? If people want to sell there ticket on they will. Surely by turning a blind eye to a FANSITE makes sense, as by putting a stop to it you just drive people elsewhere where the intention and situation may not be so genuine. It does not mean that GFL are condoning personal resales as a) this is not a commercial website and b) they have no direct links to Glastowatch and as such could not attract criticism for what happens here.

Glastowatch, and any other pro-Glastonbury site, does GFL a whole world of good, for free, and as such should be able operate without worrying that threads started by those unconnected to the running of the site would result in a 'straining of relations'.

To me it seems very 'un-Glastonbury' and I (clearly) find that a real shame.

I'd best shut up in case they revoke my ticket, and heaven knows what they would say if they knew I think that some of the stuff that Billy Bragg comes out with is tosh...

You get my point I'm sure.

[mumbles04]

i think this is very very sad indeed

if people want to buy the tickets that people are selling because they cant go then why the hell not?
its not hurting anyone, the only people involved are the seller and buyer so i dont think u should really have an opinion or any say so in the matter, everyone should just keep out of things that doesnt involve them, i have tried every year for hours on two different computers and phones to get tickets and never have, thats really fair?

[Buffystar]

My feelings are
1. Tickets are not transferable
2. If the ticket is payed for by the new buyer and doesn't get in due to photo etc then its a massive down for both buyer and seller.
3. Last year I saw 5 people turned away for Photo's not matching face. Tickets were taken off them.
4. I know for a fact that Oxfam Stewards on the gate can actually loose there position and access to Festival if they are caught letting in Tickets that don't match.
5. I wouldn't risk it myself. I am a Glasto freak.
6. It is still classed as Touting.

[acidliam]

Too much Glasto snobbery imo.

Deffos, I've been very surprised at it.

[glasty]

Deffos, I've been very surprised at it.

I am also very surprised by it It does all seem very 'un-glastonbury like'

I appreciate that tickets aren't meant to be sold/given to any one other than the person named and pictured on the ticket, but if that person generally can't come then why not spread the love and pass it on. This creates only good feelings surely??

Ok, Glastonbury festivals rules say this is not allowed......... but it also says under no circumstances may any drugs enter the site Everyone knows the rules are there to be broken slightly, especially in glastonbury

As long as no one is getting hurt or upset by it, then happy days I say

[Roo]

Think I've already expressed views elsewhere on the 'non-transferable' part of your contract with Glastonbury Festivals Ltd when buying a ticket. But on this particular topic, good to see ebay ain't getting a cut from the many campervan tickets & carpark tickets that are being exchanged via the forum (seems these are transferable as they don't tend to be pulling any ebay auctions for these).
Not sure it's within the ethos or whatnot of the forum, but depends on the 'admin'. maybe a 'swap' sub-forum area may be the best place to have these threads??

[stinkywitch]

To all who are saying it's just not the glasto way to stop people buying/selling, well it is. Michael Eavis is the only person who has gone to great lengths to stop it happening so I personally believe it is the gasto way.
GFL do not want us to keep these posts on the forum and what GFL want is what they get.

Saying that I am impressed with the level of maturity throughout these posts, I have been on many forum and it would have expolded into a foul mouth personal rant on most of them.

[subtitlesonly]

I have been on many forum and it would have expolded into a foul mouth personal rant on most of them.

and you would get banned if you dared to have an opinion of your own

[GlastoWatch]

Apologies for not posting sooner, I've been away and only had access to the net via my phone which is a pain to use on this forum (I'll make it more mobile friendly after Glasto).

I truly sympathise with both those who have tickets and are no longer able to go, and those who've been unsuccessful in purchasing/winning one, and believe that GFL should look into finding a solution for those ticket-holders who through no fault of their own are no longer able to attend. A lot can happen in the seven weeks between the ticket return deadline and the start of Glasto!

The bottom line is, GFL requested the threads be removed as it undermines their anti-tout ticketing system.

No doubt people will PM each other with offers after reading of other's plights in posts on this forum. This is entirety between the two parties concerned and is not the business of anyone else. Please don't abuse this with thinly disguised "For sale" threads though.

I'd like to echo Stickwitch's comment above in thanking everyone for keeping it civil and not letting the thread descend into a shit-storm as often happens on forums.

Anyway, only six days to go

I think that some of the stuff that Billy Bragg comes out with is tosh...

You're not wrong there!

[KG56]

[acidliam]

How very draconian.